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Summer 2010 Press Tour


IT’S ALWAYS SUNNY IN PHILADELPHIA

Rob McElhenney
Glenn Howerton
Danny DeVito
Kaitlin Olson

August 3, 2010

The Beverly Hilton Hotel

© 2010 FX Networks.   All rights reserved.


All TCA Press Tour transcripts are prepared immediately following press conferences. They are provided for your convenience and are not intended as a substitute at press conferences. Due to the speed with which these transcripts are prepared, complete accuracy cannot be guaranteed.

JOHN SOLBERG: Good afternoon. Now we are going

to begin the final three panels of the day. This

is the comedy portion of our presentation. We're

going start with "It's Always Sunny in

Philadelphia." The sixth season premieres on

Thursday, September 16 at 10 p.m. This show has

gone from cult hit to bona fide hit and what's

amazing about this show is that last season, after

its fifth season, it grew 60 percent in ratings.

It just continues to grow. These guys are so

talented, and they actually did a live stage show.

They took their episode "Night Man Cometh" and did

a live stage show and sold out eight venues across

the country last year. The DVD sales have been

through the roof. It just got syndication on

Comedy Central, which is the first time a comedy

on one basic cable network has gone in syndication

on another basic cable network, and it's doing

quite well. But this show has always tackled

controversial subjects, and this year's going to

be no different. The first and second episodes

are gay marriage and then divorce. They'll also

deal with animal rights later on this year. The

episode you saw, if you saw it, that we sent over

and that we screened close-circuit "Who Got Dee

Pregnant?," that's an episode that's going to air

later on in the year. But they killed at

Comic-Con last week. It's just a great pleasure

to have them on our air, and I want to introduce

our panel. Initially, we were going to do a table

read. Unfortunately for us, but fortunately for

him, Charlie Day has a pretty big role in a movie

called "Horrible Bosses." So he was shooting all

day, and I don't think they wanted me to replace

Charlie on the table read. I don't think that

would have been funny. But anyhow, we are happy

to have our cast, and I want to invite them out

right now. Please welcome Danny DeVito, who plays

Frank. Hello, Danny.


DANNY DEVITO: Hi.
JOHN SOLBERG: Kaitlin Olson, who plays Sweet Dee.

Hey.
KAITLIN OLSON: Hi.


JOHN SOLBERG: Glenn Howerton, who plays Dennis,

and Glenn is also an executive producer. And Rob

McElhenney, who plays Mac. Rob is the creator and

executive producer, and while they're getting

mic'd, we're going to roll a trailer.

(Clip shown.)


I'll open it up for Q&A.
DANNY DEVITO: That was really good. I really

liked that promo.


KAITLIN OLSON: You liked it.
(Laughter.)
DANNY DEVITO: Yeah.
QUESTION: For Rob and, I guess, Kaitlin

because -- well, I'll get to it in a second. How

much are you going to incorporate your -- the two

of your impending bundle of joy into the

storylines beyond the episode we saw on the screen

here?
ROB MCELHENNEY: A fair amount. I mean, we

realized that seven and a half months in, we

weren't going to be able to hide it anymore.


KAITLIN OLSON: We tried.
ROB MCELHENNEY: We tried.
KAITLIN OLSON: It's not a cooperative baby.
GLENN HOWERTON: We told her, "Why are you getting

so -- try and keep it under control."


KAITLIN OLSON: Try and suck that in. And I was

like, "I'm trying." I'm passing out. I don't eat

at all. Like it's not good enough. So we had to

just write it in.


(Laughter.)
ROB MCELHENNEY: You know, sarcasm doesn't work on

the page.


KAITLIN OLSON: No. You're right.
(Laughter.)
ROB MCELHENNEY: The American public is going to

hear, "I didn't eat at all."


KAITLIN OLSON: Yeah, yeah. I didn't.
ROB MCELHENNEY: And they're going to take that

very seriously.


KAITLIN OLSON: I didn't.
(Laughter.)
ROB MCELHENNEY: That's why she looks so great.
DANNY DEVITO: I ate for the two of us.
(Laughter.)
KAITLIN OLSON: We hid the pregnancy. We shoot in

two blocks. So we hid the pregnancy for the first

block, and then we wrote it in for the second

block. We'll talk about it a little bit, and then

we'll ignore it a little bit.
GLENN HOWERTON: There's an episode in which we

discover that she is pregnant. We initially think

that she's just getting fat, and, of course, we

give her a bunch of shit for it. And she drops a

bomb on us that she's actually pregnant.
DANNY DEVITO: Who picks who goes?
QUESTION: I pick who goes.
DANNY DEVITO: Okay.
(Laughter.)
Do it quicker.
KAITLIN OLSON: Hi.
ROB MCELHENNEY: Hi, Jonathan.
QUESTION: How are you?
ROB MCELHENNEY: Good. How are you?
QUESTION: Are you getting tired of doing this?
DANNY DEVITO: No. Just do it quicker, a person

with their hand up.


(Laughter.)
QUESTION: Grinding it out.
GLENN HOWERTON: Are you getting tired of it?
QUESTION: Not at all. Do you ever get a --
DANNY DEVITO: Bring him a cup of coffee, will

you.
(Laughter.)


QUESTION: Do you ever get a little bit, "Oh, God,

I've got to think up another ridiculously horrible

thing that I can do to make myself debased even

further”?


DANNY DEVITO: What is he? Looking in the mirror?
(Laughter.)
GLENN HOWERTON: Ouch.
KAITLIN OLSON: Danny and I aren't tired of it.

We only work a couple months out of the year.

We're fine. You guys?
GLENN HOWERTON: You know, it's funny. Our minds

really don't work that way. I mean, I totally get

it, like sometimes -- I understand from an

outsider's point of view why it seems that way,

but we don't --
QUESTION: No. It doesn't seem that way at all.

I'm just wondering if you're covering up.


GLENN HOWERTON: No.
DANNY DEVITO: We're hiding our pain.
QUESTION: You starting doing it as sort of a goof

because you didn't have any work.


(Laughter.)
And now you kind of have this ball and chain

strapped to your ankle.


GLENN HOWERTON: No. You're right about that.

That's definitely true. No, it's still fun.

We're still having fun coming to work, and I mean

we --
ROB MCELHENNEY: What a legacy. I did something

as a goof, and then it became a ball and chain.

(Laughter.)


QUESTION: You know what I mean.
GLENN HOWERTON: No. I do know what you mean.

You know, you're not totally wrong. It is like,

"Ah, I've got to another one of these."
DANNY DEVITO: Kind of like having a baby.
GLENN HOWERTON: Crank another one of these out,

ah, God.
DANNY DEVITO: We're a family.


GLENN HOWERTON: No. We're still having fun. You

know, the good news is we actually still like each

other. So even though it is a ton of work, we

actually enjoy each other's company throughout the

process, for the most part. We get a little sick

of -- you know.


KAITLIN OLSON: We do.
GLENN HOWERTON: Yeah, well...
ROB MCELHENNEY: It seems that our audience is

growing at such an accelerated rate for the past

few years and so many people are new viewers, and

it's sort of coinciding with us, I think,

crescendoing in with our greatest creative season,

and feel like, as long as new viewers keep showing

up to watch, we'll keep doing it.
QUESTION: How long do you think you will keep

doing it? Do you think about that?


GLENN HOWERTON: Ooohhh.
ROB MCELHENNEY: It's hard to say.
GLENN HOWERTON: Tough to say. We'll take it year

by year.
ROB MCELHENNEY: Yeah.


GLENN HOWERTON: We've got at least one more year

for sure after this.


QUESTION: And for Danny, who did get Sweet Dee

pregnant?


DANNY DEVITO: Na-na-na-na-na.
GLENN HOWERTON: Na-na-na-na-na.
(Laughter.)
KAITLIN OLSON: It's a whole who-dunnit episode.
ROB MCELHENNEY: It is.
DANNY DEVITO: Until the ending.
QUESTION: Given -- going at that question in a

different way, given that, even though that

adolescence is now estimated to last -- I don't

know -- probably ten years longer than it used to.


(Laughter.)
DANNY DEVITO: Way, way longer than that.
GLENN HOWERTON: Yeah (pointing to Danny).
(Laughter.)
QUESTION: Well, there are exceptions, but is

there a point where it becomes even more

unrealistic for -- I mean, where people might

start to expect character development --


(Laughter.)
GLENN HOWERTON: Well, you mean character growth?
QUESTION: No. In your case, maybe character

development.


(Laughter.)
ROB MCELHENNEY: Okay. Fair enough. I think the

older we get, the sadder it is.


GLENN HOWERTON: Yeah.
ROB MCELHENNEY: The sadder it is, the funnier it

is.
DANNY DEVITO: I disagree with that, man. I think

the older you get, the more fun it is.
ROB MCELHENNEY: We'll all see how -- you are.
DANNY DEVITO: Well, I don't know. That's right.

Look, I guess this is the mirror up to, you

know --
GLENN HOWERTON: Are we talking about our

characters or us as people?


KAITLIN OLSON: Talking about us.
ROB MCELHENNEY: I was talking about the

characters.


QUESTION: I pretty much am talking about the

characters. Except perhaps for Danny, if he

prefers to be excepted.
DANNY DEVITO: I tell you, I mean, like Frank,

from my character's point of view, he can't get

any -- I can't get too wild. He can't get too

crazy. You can't get too more adolescent. He

can't get sillier, too silly. He can get sillier.

He can get more and more and more. It's because

the whole idea is that it's what gets Charlie and

what gets Danny -- Frank and Charlie and Danny out

of bed in the morning because otherwise, we would

stay in bed with each other.


GLENN HOWERTON: The truth is with Danny's -- with

Frank, his character -- while our characters are

not really evolving very much, his character is

actually devolving year after year. If you

remember -- and I'm sure you do -- in season 2, he

came on, and he said, "I want to" -- he

essentially said, "I want to devolve. I want to

go back to the way I was when I was young and I

was a degenerate, I was -- you know.” So his

character is actually slowly devolving.


QUESTION: Is there a point where you guys will

all meet in the middle?


GLENN HOWERTON: I don't know.
QUESTION: Where you'll be older than Danny?
DANNY DEVITO: Hmmm.
KAITLIN OLSON: I don't know that that hasn't

happened.


DANNY DEVITO: That's interesting.
ROB MCELHENNEY: He'd like that.
DANNY DEVITO: You mean like that kind of “Benjamin

Button” (indicating) thing --


(Laughter.)
QUESTION: Yeah.
DANNY DEVITO: -- where we kind of pass, like, you

know, and all of a sudden --


QUESTION: And suddenly you look like Brad Pitt.

Sure.
(Laughter.)


DANNY DEVITO: Well, you know, I guess it is a

technological world. We might be able to do that,

but, you know, that probably would be a little

expensive for our show.


(Laughter.)
Yeah, that sounds like a good thing, crossing

like -- yeah.


GLENN HOWERTON: Yeah.
DANNY DEVITO: Say no more.
QUESTION: Hey, guys.
DANNY DEVITO: (Making a sound.)
QUESTION: Can you talk about the success of the

live tour? How much fun it was for you?


DANNY DEVITO: Oh, yeah.
QUESTION: Do you have plans on doing anything

like that again?


GLENN HOWERTON: Yeah, the live tour was a blast.

I mean, it was really -- the first time we did a

show. It was at The Troubadour with friends of

ours, and it was just something that we were kind

of doing on a whim, and the response that we got,

we had to add a night because it sold out in like

five seconds. It was very eye-opening, the

response we got, how clearly the fans of the show

really love the show. And we really felt that,

and the tour evolved out of that. And it was nice

for us also -- it was really nice for us to have

started as a pretty small show to see where the

show has gone over the years and to see how much

our fans care about the show.


KAITLIN OLSON: And it was the first time we were

really able to interact with our fans like that,

which was really cool.
GLENN HOWERTON: Right.
KAITLIN OLSON: I don't think any of us had any

idea. I mean, we were all really excited about

it, and we loved that episode anyway, then to get

out there and start singing and have everybody

sing all the words to the song with us, I just

remember being blown away by that. So it was

really cool, and it was nice to be able to hang

out afterwards. So I think the tour gave us an

opportunity to connect with people, with the fans

of the show, which was great.


QUESTION: Would you consider doing something like

that again if you had another musical episode

coming?
GLENN HOWERTON: I think so, yeah.
KAITLIN OLSON: Yeah, it was fun.
GLENN HOWERTON: I don't know that we would

necessarily do it again with the same musical. I

mean, who knows? Maybe. Never say never, but

certainly if we had some new material, I think we

would probably consider it. It was a lot of fun.
QUESTION: Danny, in the high-rent district in the

back. Right here.


DANNY DEVITO: (Making a noise) Got you.
QUESTION: I was wondering how much do you

actually work on this? I mean, do you work every

day? Or how much do you work on it? And then you

have a real hot career outside of this, and what

are some of the things that you're planning on

doing or that you are doing?


DANNY DEVITO: Well, when this came along, I was

very, very, very, very excited about it because,

you know, the movie business was going along.

Everything I -- Jersey Films was gone. I was

slowing down in that department, and I was really

looking for something to, you know, rejuvenate me

in a way in terms of my spirit. As Danny, I

wanted something really challenging, something fun

to work on. When this came along, it was just

what the doctor ordered. How much I work on the

show is -- thanks to them, they do the -- Kaitlin

and I and Mary Elizabeth and Artemis and the other

characters on the show, we wait for the scripts

that they bang out with themselves and the writer

teams that they have now assembled. So we wait until

those scripts come in. We get the scripts, and we

start working immediately as soon as we get the

scripts. Within a month we're on the stage

shooting, and the way we shoot out of order and

all different kind of which ways, I usually work

every day. You know, once in a while you catch a

little time off. Same thing with Kaitlin, and

everybody does, has a little bit of time off when

you're doing various scenes, like in any movie you

make, you have various characters that are working

in the morning or some in the afternoon. But

usually, whatever schedule we set out, it's a

day-in and day-out situation, and, you know,

you're staying abreast with all the work that

they're doing, that they're putting into the

scripts. So you're working seven days a week

basically whether you're working at home or you're

working on the stage, but we go to work every day.

The only thing that's like really rough about it

for me is I don't like to get up like a farmer

like at 5 o'clock or 6 o'clock in the morning,

which we do, and that's the only thing that's very

difficult for me. So sometimes I don't know what

we film during the morning hours.
KAITLIN OLSON: We start at like 7:00.
DANNY DEVITO: They tell me like the afternoon,

"Well, we already did that scene." I say, "Was I

in it?" "Yeah, you were in it."
(Laughter.)
KAITLIN OLSON: Danny wakes up around 11:00, but

he's been working for hours.


DANNY DEVITO: Yeah, it's quite a schedule and a

lot of fun, and I'm also doing other things, like

you asked. You know, I have a website called

thebloodfactory.com, which is on the web that we

just came from Comic-Con. I do that, and I'm also

developing a couple of movie projects as we go

along, too. So thank you.
QUESTION: With Mary Elizabeth working on "Perfect

Couples," what kind of presence is the waitress

going to have this season? And does that mean

that Artemis will be throwing Sweet Dee's baby

shower?
(Laughter.)
ROB MCELHENNEY: Well, actually, the timing worked

out really well because they're going to be in

production on "Perfect Couples" when we are off

from production and vice versa. So I think this

particular season Mary Elizabeth is in --
KAITLIN OLSON: Two?
ROB MCELHENNEY: -- two episodes. Yeah, about two

episodes, which is generally the average.


GLENN HOWERTON: Yes.
KAITLIN OLSON: Artemis is in a couple, too, this

year, and, no, nobody throws Sweet Dee a baby

shower, and thank you for asking.
(Laughter.)
DANNY DEVITO: But I'm telling you, if Artemis

threw Sweet Dee baby shower, I would want to be

there. That girl is off the wall.
(Laughter.)
QUESTION: Your experience at Comic-Con, do the

fans talk about this show as well? What do you

hear down at the grassroots level?
DANNY DEVITO: It's amazing.
GLENN HOWERTON: Our show?
DANNY DEVITO: Amazing.
GLENN HOWERTON: Well, we did a panel -- we did a

screening and a panel, and I don't know -- I --


ROB MCELHENNEY: Seven thousand --
GLENN HOWERTON: Seven-thousand people showed up.
QUESTION: In costume?
ROB MCELHENNEY: Quite a few in costume.
KAITLIN OLSON: A lot of costumes.
GLENN HOWERTON: A lot of costumes, yeah.
KAITLIN OLSON: A lot of Chewbaccas.
ROB MCELHENNEY: I get a lot of people emailing me

pictures around Halloween of people they see dressed

as us --
KAITLIN OLSON: Yeah.
ROB MCELHENNEY: -- as our “Nightman” characters for

Halloween.


GLENN HOWERTON: We definitely -- yeah, well, somehow

I don't know how this happened, but on our show our

characters tend to wear a lot of different costumes.

I don't know what --


KAITLIN OLSON: Which we do again this year in the

Halloween episode.


GLENN HOWERTON: Which happens again this year, of

course. So we've actually spawned quite a few

Halloween costumes. Yeah, I'm the same way. I get a

lot of people sending me pictures of people that

they've seen or their own costumes or whatever. It's

pretty cool.


QUESTION: That's very interesting. What type of

costumes? Certainly not --


GLENN HOWERTON: A lot of spandex.
DANNY DEVITO: Well, they have to do a lot of

“Greenman.”


KAITLIN OLSON: Yeah.
DANNY DEVITO: There's always -- like at Comic-Con

this year, just let me say, it was an explosion for

"Sunny," I thought, my personal experience. I've been

there a few years, and last year it was big. And this

year it was just, like, off the charts. You couldn't

go anywhere on the floor -- you know, when you're

looking at stuff -- I don't know if you've ever been

there, but it's -- this was the biggest Comic-Con

they've had in attendance, I think, ever. And it was

filled, I mean, from wall to wall with fans of all

those movies and all those characters, but I would say

99 percent of them were also "Sunny" fans. They were

just rabid about it, and we loved it. It was so

exciting for us because, you know, like they said,

like Rob said and Glenn, that we had a screening of an

episode, and there were, like, 7,000 people in the

room. And it's just -- you know, it's mayhem. And

that's what the live show was like, mayhem, which was

wonderful for us because it just gives you such, you

know, incredible feedback, which we're all looking

for.
GLENN HOWERTON: I mean, it really is a motivating

force, though, for us to keep going because we still

love doing the show, but it is nice to know that

you're not doing it in a vacuum.


DANNY DEVITO: Right.
GLENN HOWERTON: Now that the show is -- I mean, it's

weird, and I don't know how often this happens

anymore, but it seems like not very often, that a show

continues to grow in its audience, you know, in -- I

mean every year our audience is bigger and bigger.

And it's harder and harder for me to just sit in an

airport. I mean, like, it's weird. That's where I've

noticed it the most. If I go to an airport, I can't

just go and just go sit at the gate anymore without it

being a whole thing. Now, I don't like that

particular aspect of it, but I like it insofar as it

shows me and tells me how much people are watching the

show, which is great.
KAITLIN OLSON: That's new for us because --
GLENN HOWERTON: It's new for us. Yeah.
KAITLIN OLSON: -- because, you know, it was kind of

an underground show for a few years. And we had some

really hardcore fans who love to let us know that

they've been there from the beginning. And I think

that's because it's kind of starting to explode right

now. And everybody at least has heard of it, and I

think most people have seen it now at some point. So

yeah, that's really new for us, what he's talking

about.
GLENN HOWERTON: Yeah.

QUESTION: Well, the reason I asked about the reaction

from --
DANNY DEVITO: Comic-Con.
QUESTION: -- the grassroots fans at Comic-Con is

that they have a very high passion level about what --


KAITLIN OLSON: Yeah.
QUESTION: -- that they like, but they are not shy

about telling you what they don't like.


KAITLIN OLSON: Yeah.
QUESTION: They have booed people --
DANNY DEVITO: Right.
QUESTION: -- off stage as well if they don't like

you.
KAITLIN OLSON: They mean business.


QUESTION: Any negative feedback that you've taken to

heart and maybe tweaked a few things?


GLENN HOWERTON: No.
DANNY DEVITO: So far, thank God --
KAITLIN OLSON: I literally don't think I've gotten

any negative.


DANNY DEVITO: So far, thank God, we haven't had any

negative feedback.


KAITLIN OLSON: Not from Comic-Con.
DANNY DEVITO: Not from the fans.
GLENN HOWERTON: Not from Comic-Con fans, no. I

mean --
KAITLIN OLSON: Middle America? I don't know.


DANNY DEVITO: I don't even know if that's -- I mean,

you might get a reaction from, like, for instance,

when -- I was just traveling yesterday. I came back

from New York. And you may get -- if you're with a

family where three of the kids are just going crazy

over the fact that they're going to meet somebody from

"It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia," and you may have

a dad and a mom or somebody there wondering, they

might be a little bit cool about it, the mom and dad.

They probably don't know -- they've probably never

seen the show, and once the kids infiltrate them, they

will be total crazy fans for our show too.


KAITLIN OLSON: I've been surprised at how many mom

and dads have come up to us --


DANNY DEVITO: Yeah.
GLENN HOWERTON: Yeah.
KAITLIN OLSON: -- in the last few years and have

been, like --


DANNY DEVITO: They've come around.
KAITLIN OLSON: -- huge fans. I was like, "Oh, wow,

that's awesome." My parents love it, but my parents

are weird. But yeah, like --
GLENN HOWERTON: Yeah.
KAITLIN OLSON: -- it definitely is --
DANNY DEVITO: I know that --
KAITLIN OLSON: -- crossing generations now.
DANNY DEVITO: -- feeling firsthand because my kids

are now 27, 25, and 22. And I remember going through

this over the years where they would be so hooked on

something, right, and I would just pass the -- you

know, the TV room. I'd see them watching the show,

and I'd go, "Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah." I'd be cool.

Then I'd walk away. Then as I kept getting sucked in

more and more by their enthusiasm for the show, I

then, like, you know, just gave it up and really

listened to the show and got into the show and wound

up loving the show, you know, just going crazy for the

show. And that's what our kids give to us, I think,

all of our children do.
QUESTION: I was pleased to see the McPoyles return in

the Sweet Dee episode.


DANNY DEVITO: Yeah, yeah.
QUESTION: And over the years, you've built up this

collection of people even stranger than the gang at

the bar: Cricket and all of them. Among them, was

there anyone who you were perhaps -- did not intend to

bring back, but they were just sort of so good the

first time that you said, "All right. Well, we need

more of them"?
GLENN HOWERTON: Good question. That we did not

intend to bring back. Well, I mean --


QUESTION: Was there anyone who surprised you --
KAITLIN OLSON: Maybe the Soldier.
GLENN HOWERTON: The Soldier.
QUESTION: -- you by how funny they were?
ROB MCELHENNEY: Yeah, Ben the Soldier.
KAITLIN OLSON: Yeah, Ben the Soldier.
GLENN HOWERTON: We established that Sweet Dee was

dating somebody last year, I think in the

"D.E.N.N.I.S. System" episode.
DANNY DEVITO: Yes, yes.
KAITLIN OLSON: He likes turtles.
GLENN HOWERTON: Yeah, he likes turtles. An Iraq War

veteran.
ROB MCELHENNEY: That was the wrestling --


GLENN HOWERTON: Well, we introduced them, I think, in

"The D.E.N.N.I.S. System," right?


KAITLIN OLSON: Mm-hmm.
GLENN HOWERTON: Anyway, yeah, and then he comes back

in the wrestling episode. And then -- and actually,

he's going to be in another episode this year. There

are actually a few characters that show up -- we've

got some great ancillary characters that show up in an

episode this year for very specific reasons. I guess

we can talk about why, but yeah, so every once in a

while that happens, yeah.


QUESTION: Do you have to be judicious about using

them? Is there ever a temptation like just -- "Let's

put the McPoyles in every episode"?
GLENN HOWERTON: Yeah. I mean, but -- I love those

guys. Those are some of the funniest characters that

I've ever seen. I mean, that sounds weird because I

write for the show, but it's mostly a testament to

their performances really. I mean, it's one thing to

write something. It's another thing to have somebody

come and just absolutely nail it. I would love to use

them more. But they're so strange that it's hard to

come up with stories to justify why they would -- why

they would be there. That being said, I mean, we'll

use them as much as we possibly can. I mean, they're

amazing.
QUESTION: How does it feel to know that five years

ago, you were pushing the envelope contentwise,

languagewise on FX and now you guys are relatively

restrained compared to a lot of what's on FX,

especially "Louie" and a couple of the other shows?


ROB MCELHENNEY: Well, it was never our intention

necessarily to push the envelope. Our goal is always

to do what's not being done elsewhere. And something

that we're really proud of and something that I think

that the fans -- the true fans of the show really

understand that a lot of people don't know is that we are

not simply just going out and trying to push the

envelope for pushing the envelope's sake. We're

trying to introduce into comedy a part of the national

conversation that we hear and see people talking about

behind closed doors, but aren't doing in public. I've

never seen an episode of any show that deals with gay

marriage, and we decided that that was something that

we wanted to do. And that's what -- we're going to do

an episode about that this year. We felt like we

could have a very distinct and different take than any

other show on television. And sometimes we do dick

jokes.
(Laughter.)


And I -- honestly, and I feel like there's a happy

medium in there, and I think that if you do just go

out and go for the low-brow or you are just pushing

the envelope for pushing the envelope's sake, that

ultimately people are going to get bored with it and

they're going to move on. I think if you are building

a foundation of a show that is a part of the national

conversation and then you also can bring in some base

humor, I think it cannot only appeal to a larger

audience, but also can have some sort of setting in

real life.
GLENN HOWERTON: Yeah, and has a certain social

relevance. That's not to say that all those other FX

shows are doing that. I mean, I happen to be a fan of

"Louie" also. And the reason I think -- I mean, I

think that show is really smart, and I think it's

really funny. And I think with our show and with that

show, if something happens to be shocking or, you

know, put -- you know, crossing a line, so to speak,

it's not ever good if it's just for the sake of

crossing the line.


KAITLIN OLSON: It's based in something else that's

smart.
GLENN HOWERTON: Right.


ROB MCELHENNEY: Also, if you remember, the pilot of

"The Shield," which was done way -- many years before

us, a cop kills another cop. I mean, that's pushing

the boundaries as far as -- and that's your main

character. And Vic Mackey's one of the greatest

characters in television. So --


GLENN HOWERTON: But it's like Rob said. We're just

trying to do something different that we haven't seen,

that we aren't seeing, something that we would want to

watch as viewers. And then oftentimes that happens to

be something that pushes the limit or crosses a line

or whatever it happens to be. But I mean, personally

I think that's just what makes something good. I

think --
KAITLIN OLSON: You haven't seen it before, a lot of

times.
GLENN HOWERTON: It needs to be surprising. It needs

to be shocking a little bit. Otherwise, it doesn't --

that's why I watch television, to see something I've

never seen, to watch something unfold that surprises

me and shocks me. And whether it makes me laugh or it

makes me cry, that's what is effective in telling a

story, I think. So we're always coming at it from the

standpoint of telling an interesting story that you

haven't seen.
ROB MCELHENNEY: Which is also the way I felt about

"The Shield" when I first saw it too and in a lot of

different FX series, certainly "Nip/Tuck" and "Rescue

Me," is that, obviously, it was pushing the

boundaries, but it was about something. It was

something -- most importantly, like you said, it's

something I wasn't seeing anywhere else.

QUESTION: I have two questions, one about

syndication. Don't you think syndication really

helped raise your profile at the airport and other

places or for a more general audience than maybe

cable? Also, I wanted to ask about your characters

and if they've changed over the seasons? It seemed at

first they were kind of off-putting or something, but

now they're just kind of hilariously really stupid.

Do you think they've changed, or has my perception

just changed?
ROB MCELHENNEY: I think it's your perception.
KAITLIN OLSON: I think people have gotten used to it.
ROB MCELHENNEY: Yeah. I think that's -- it's like

that first bitter taste of coffee that you -- when you

first have coffee, and then you start to develop a

taste for it or maybe an addiction. And I feel like

the characters are off-putting at first because it's

like nothing -- you've never seen a group of people,

maybe for good reason -- I don't know -- together in a

sitcom acting the way that these people do. And that was

something that was our goal, something that you had

never seen before, which I think can leave a bad taste

in your mouth at first. But then over time, you start

to see that these are not just obnoxious people, but

they are people who are pathetic.
(Laughter.)
And there's something --
GLENN HOWERTON: But I think they are somehow

representative of a certain type of mentality in our

society. I really do believe that. And I think

that's why it actually resonates with people. I think

everybody -- I think a lot of people have a side of

themselves that are these characters. I really do. I

know I do. I know I have a side of myself that's a

screaming baby who wants exactly what he wants, wants

it now, and isn't going to take no for an answer and

is going to do whatever it takes to get it, even if it

means I'm stepping on everybody's heads to get it.

There's a side of all of us, I think, that is

reminiscent of these characters. And I think

that's -- I do think that that is why it resonates.


ROB MCELHENNEY: And that's why we're proud of the

satirical look at American culture, which we think our

show is. And we believe that the core audience

understands that.

QUESTION: What about the syndication? Do you think

that's --


ROB MCELHENNEY: Yes, absolutely. Not only has the

syndication expanded our audience; it's also broadened

it and made it a little bit younger. I think our mean

age was, at one point, somewhere in the mid to late

twenties. I think it's down in the early twenties

now, which is great. It's mostly -- college kids were

really the groundswell of the show originally. And

they were passing it around to their friends, the

DVDs, and they were telling each other about it. And

then those college kids graduated, and those people --

those kids who were assistants or junior-level

executives became executives, and they became agents,

and they became people working all over the country as

opposed to just kids. I think that that, coupled with

syndication, which has expanded our audience, I think,

is really what has done it.


JOHN SOLBERG: Last question.
QUESTION: I'll ask it. So you guys had this great

episode last season where you were trying to get to

the Grand Canyon, and you got as far as the Italian

market --


GLENN HOWERTON: Yeah.
QUESTION: -- in Philadelphia. Are you guys ever

going to leave Philly? Are there any plans to get

those characters out of Philadelphia?
ROB MCELHENNEY: Yeah. We have an episode this year

with -- I don't know if there's any baseball fans in

the room, but Chase Utley and Ryan Howard of the

Phillies are guest-starring.


GLENN HOWERTON: And Tom Sizemore.
ROB MCELHENNEY: And Tom Sizemore. And --
(Laughter.)
-- we go on an adventure outside the city to the

wonderful state of New Jersey.


DANNY DEVITO: Oo-hoo.
KAITLIN OLSON: So yes, they go on a big trip.
GLENN HOWERTON: Yeah.

ROB MCELHENNEY: Very long, cross-country --


DANNY DEVITO: Yeah. It was kind of scary, but it was

really worth it.


JOHN SOLBERG: Thank you all so much. Again, the show

returns for its sixth season on Thursday,



September 16th at 10:00.




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