Summer 2010 Press Tour
IT’S ALWAYS SUNNY IN PHILADELPHIA
August 3, 2010
The Beverly Hilton Hotel
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JOHN SOLBERG: Good afternoon. Now we are going
to begin the final three panels of the day. This
is the comedy portion of our presentation. We're
going start with "It's Always Sunny in
Philadelphia." The sixth season premieres on
Thursday, September 16 at 10 p.m. This show has
gone from cult hit to bona fide hit and what's
amazing about this show is that last season, after
its fifth season, it grew 60 percent in ratings.
It just continues to grow. These guys are so
talented, and they actually did a live stage show.
They took their episode "Night Man Cometh" and did
a live stage show and sold out eight venues across
the country last year. The DVD sales have been
through the roof. It just got syndication on
Comedy Central, which is the first time a comedy
on one basic cable network has gone in syndication
on another basic cable network, and it's doing
quite well. But this show has always tackled
controversial subjects, and this year's going to
be no different. The first and second episodes
are gay marriage and then divorce. They'll also
deal with animal rights later on this year. The
episode you saw, if you saw it, that we sent over
and that we screened close-circuit "Who Got Dee
Pregnant?," that's an episode that's going to air
later on in the year. But they killed at
Comic-Con last week. It's just a great pleasure
to have them on our air, and I want to introduce
our panel. Initially, we were going to do a table
read. Unfortunately for us, but fortunately for
him, Charlie Day has a pretty big role in a movie
called "Horrible Bosses." So he was shooting all
day, and I don't think they wanted me to replace
Charlie on the table read. I don't think that
would have been funny. But anyhow, we are happy
to have our cast, and I want to invite them out
right now. Please welcome Danny DeVito, who plays
Frank. Hello, Danny.
DANNY DEVITO: Hi.
JOHN SOLBERG: Kaitlin Olson, who plays Sweet Dee.
KAITLIN OLSON: Hi.
JOHN SOLBERG: Glenn Howerton, who plays Dennis,
and Glenn is also an executive producer. And Rob
McElhenney, who plays Mac. Rob is the creator and
executive producer, and while they're getting
mic'd, we're going to roll a trailer.
I'll open it up for Q&A.
DANNY DEVITO: That was really good. I really
liked that promo.
KAITLIN OLSON: You liked it.
DANNY DEVITO: Yeah.
QUESTION: For Rob and, I guess, Kaitlin
because -- well, I'll get to it in a second. How
much are you going to incorporate your -- the two
of your impending bundle of joy into the
storylines beyond the episode we saw on the screen
ROB MCELHENNEY: A fair amount. I mean, we
realized that seven and a half months in, we
weren't going to be able to hide it anymore.
KAITLIN OLSON: We tried.
ROB MCELHENNEY: We tried.
KAITLIN OLSON: It's not a cooperative baby.
GLENN HOWERTON: We told her, "Why are you getting
so -- try and keep it under control."
KAITLIN OLSON: Try and suck that in. And I was
like, "I'm trying." I'm passing out. I don't eat
at all. Like it's not good enough. So we had to
just write it in.
ROB MCELHENNEY: You know, sarcasm doesn't work on
KAITLIN OLSON: No. You're right.
ROB MCELHENNEY: The American public is going to
hear, "I didn't eat at all."
KAITLIN OLSON: Yeah, yeah. I didn't.
ROB MCELHENNEY: And they're going to take that
KAITLIN OLSON: I didn't.
ROB MCELHENNEY: That's why she looks so great.
DANNY DEVITO: I ate for the two of us.
KAITLIN OLSON: We hid the pregnancy. We shoot in
two blocks. So we hid the pregnancy for the first
block, and then we wrote it in for the second
block. We'll talk about it a little bit, and then
we'll ignore it a little bit.
GLENN HOWERTON: There's an episode in which we
discover that she is pregnant. We initially think
that she's just getting fat, and, of course, we
give her a bunch of shit for it. And she drops a
bomb on us that she's actually pregnant.
DANNY DEVITO: Who picks who goes?
QUESTION: I pick who goes.
DANNY DEVITO: Okay.
Do it quicker.
KAITLIN OLSON: Hi.
ROB MCELHENNEY: Hi, Jonathan.
QUESTION: How are you?
ROB MCELHENNEY: Good. How are you?
QUESTION: Are you getting tired of doing this?
DANNY DEVITO: No. Just do it quicker, a person
with their hand up.
QUESTION: Grinding it out.
GLENN HOWERTON: Are you getting tired of it?
QUESTION: Not at all. Do you ever get a --
DANNY DEVITO: Bring him a cup of coffee, will
QUESTION: Do you ever get a little bit, "Oh, God,
I've got to think up another ridiculously horrible
thing that I can do to make myself debased even
DANNY DEVITO: What is he? Looking in the mirror?
GLENN HOWERTON: Ouch.
KAITLIN OLSON: Danny and I aren't tired of it.
We only work a couple months out of the year.
We're fine. You guys?
GLENN HOWERTON: You know, it's funny. Our minds
really don't work that way. I mean, I totally get
it, like sometimes -- I understand from an
outsider's point of view why it seems that way,
but we don't --
QUESTION: No. It doesn't seem that way at all.
I'm just wondering if you're covering up.
GLENN HOWERTON: No.
DANNY DEVITO: We're hiding our pain.
QUESTION: You starting doing it as sort of a goof
because you didn't have any work.
And now you kind of have this ball and chain
strapped to your ankle.
GLENN HOWERTON: No. You're right about that.
That's definitely true. No, it's still fun.
We're still having fun coming to work, and I mean
ROB MCELHENNEY: What a legacy. I did something
as a goof, and then it became a ball and chain.
QUESTION: You know what I mean.
GLENN HOWERTON: No. I do know what you mean.
You know, you're not totally wrong. It is like,
"Ah, I've got to another one of these."
DANNY DEVITO: Kind of like having a baby.
GLENN HOWERTON: Crank another one of these out,
DANNY DEVITO: We're a family.
GLENN HOWERTON: No. We're still having fun. You
know, the good news is we actually still like each
other. So even though it is a ton of work, we
actually enjoy each other's company throughout the
process, for the most part. We get a little sick
of -- you know.
KAITLIN OLSON: We do.
GLENN HOWERTON: Yeah, well...
ROB MCELHENNEY: It seems that our audience is
growing at such an accelerated rate for the past
few years and so many people are new viewers, and
it's sort of coinciding with us, I think,
crescendoing in with our greatest creative season,
and feel like, as long as new viewers keep showing
up to watch, we'll keep doing it.
QUESTION: How long do you think you will keep
doing it? Do you think about that?
GLENN HOWERTON: Ooohhh.
ROB MCELHENNEY: It's hard to say.
GLENN HOWERTON: Tough to say. We'll take it year
ROB MCELHENNEY: Yeah.
GLENN HOWERTON: We've got at least one more year
for sure after this.
QUESTION: And for Danny, who did get Sweet Dee
DANNY DEVITO: Na-na-na-na-na.
GLENN HOWERTON: Na-na-na-na-na.
KAITLIN OLSON: It's a whole who-dunnit episode.
ROB MCELHENNEY: It is.
DANNY DEVITO: Until the ending.
QUESTION: Given -- going at that question in a
different way, given that, even though that
adolescence is now estimated to last -- I don't
know -- probably ten years longer than it used to.
DANNY DEVITO: Way, way longer than that.
GLENN HOWERTON: Yeah (pointing to Danny).
QUESTION: Well, there are exceptions, but is
there a point where it becomes even more
unrealistic for -- I mean, where people might
start to expect character development --
GLENN HOWERTON: Well, you mean character growth?
QUESTION: No. In your case, maybe character
ROB MCELHENNEY: Okay. Fair enough. I think the
older we get, the sadder it is.
GLENN HOWERTON: Yeah.
ROB MCELHENNEY: The sadder it is, the funnier it
DANNY DEVITO: I disagree with that, man. I think
the older you get, the more fun it is.
ROB MCELHENNEY: We'll all see how -- you are.
DANNY DEVITO: Well, I don't know. That's right.
Look, I guess this is the mirror up to, you
GLENN HOWERTON: Are we talking about our
characters or us as people?
KAITLIN OLSON: Talking about us.
ROB MCELHENNEY: I was talking about the
QUESTION: I pretty much am talking about the
characters. Except perhaps for Danny, if he
prefers to be excepted.
DANNY DEVITO: I tell you, I mean, like Frank,
from my character's point of view, he can't get
any -- I can't get too wild. He can't get too
crazy. You can't get too more adolescent. He
can't get sillier, too silly. He can get sillier.
He can get more and more and more. It's because
the whole idea is that it's what gets Charlie and
what gets Danny -- Frank and Charlie and Danny out
of bed in the morning because otherwise, we would
stay in bed with each other.
GLENN HOWERTON: The truth is with Danny's -- with
Frank, his character -- while our characters are
not really evolving very much, his character is
actually devolving year after year. If you
remember -- and I'm sure you do -- in season 2, he
came on, and he said, "I want to" -- he
essentially said, "I want to devolve. I want to
go back to the way I was when I was young and I
was a degenerate, I was -- you know.” So his
character is actually slowly devolving.
QUESTION: Is there a point where you guys will
all meet in the middle?
GLENN HOWERTON: I don't know.
QUESTION: Where you'll be older than Danny?
DANNY DEVITO: Hmmm.
KAITLIN OLSON: I don't know that that hasn't
DANNY DEVITO: That's interesting.
ROB MCELHENNEY: He'd like that.
DANNY DEVITO: You mean like that kind of “Benjamin
Button” (indicating) thing --
DANNY DEVITO: -- where we kind of pass, like, you
know, and all of a sudden --
QUESTION: And suddenly you look like Brad Pitt.
DANNY DEVITO: Well, you know, I guess it is a
technological world. We might be able to do that,
but, you know, that probably would be a little
expensive for our show.
Yeah, that sounds like a good thing, crossing
like -- yeah.
GLENN HOWERTON: Yeah.
DANNY DEVITO: Say no more.
QUESTION: Hey, guys.
DANNY DEVITO: (Making a sound.)
QUESTION: Can you talk about the success of the
live tour? How much fun it was for you?
DANNY DEVITO: Oh, yeah.
QUESTION: Do you have plans on doing anything
like that again?
GLENN HOWERTON: Yeah, the live tour was a blast.
I mean, it was really -- the first time we did a
show. It was at The Troubadour with friends of
ours, and it was just something that we were kind
of doing on a whim, and the response that we got,
we had to add a night because it sold out in like
five seconds. It was very eye-opening, the
response we got, how clearly the fans of the show
really love the show. And we really felt that,
and the tour evolved out of that. And it was nice
for us also -- it was really nice for us to have
started as a pretty small show to see where the
show has gone over the years and to see how much
our fans care about the show.
KAITLIN OLSON: And it was the first time we were
really able to interact with our fans like that,
which was really cool.
GLENN HOWERTON: Right.
KAITLIN OLSON: I don't think any of us had any
idea. I mean, we were all really excited about
it, and we loved that episode anyway, then to get
out there and start singing and have everybody
sing all the words to the song with us, I just
remember being blown away by that. So it was
really cool, and it was nice to be able to hang
out afterwards. So I think the tour gave us an
opportunity to connect with people, with the fans
of the show, which was great.
QUESTION: Would you consider doing something like
that again if you had another musical episode
GLENN HOWERTON: I think so, yeah.
KAITLIN OLSON: Yeah, it was fun.
GLENN HOWERTON: I don't know that we would
necessarily do it again with the same musical. I
mean, who knows? Maybe. Never say never, but
certainly if we had some new material, I think we
would probably consider it. It was a lot of fun.
QUESTION: Danny, in the high-rent district in the
back. Right here.
DANNY DEVITO: (Making a noise) Got you.
QUESTION: I was wondering how much do you
actually work on this? I mean, do you work every
day? Or how much do you work on it? And then you
have a real hot career outside of this, and what
are some of the things that you're planning on
doing or that you are doing?
DANNY DEVITO: Well, when this came along, I was
very, very, very, very excited about it because,
you know, the movie business was going along.
Everything I -- Jersey Films was gone. I was
slowing down in that department, and I was really
looking for something to, you know, rejuvenate me
in a way in terms of my spirit. As Danny, I
wanted something really challenging, something fun
to work on. When this came along, it was just
what the doctor ordered. How much I work on the
show is -- thanks to them, they do the -- Kaitlin
and I and Mary Elizabeth and Artemis and the other
characters on the show, we wait for the scripts
that they bang out with themselves and the writer
teams that they have now assembled. So we wait until
those scripts come in. We get the scripts, and we
start working immediately as soon as we get the
scripts. Within a month we're on the stage
shooting, and the way we shoot out of order and
all different kind of which ways, I usually work
every day. You know, once in a while you catch a
little time off. Same thing with Kaitlin, and
everybody does, has a little bit of time off when
you're doing various scenes, like in any movie you
make, you have various characters that are working
in the morning or some in the afternoon. But
usually, whatever schedule we set out, it's a
day-in and day-out situation, and, you know,
you're staying abreast with all the work that
they're doing, that they're putting into the
scripts. So you're working seven days a week
basically whether you're working at home or you're
working on the stage, but we go to work every day.
The only thing that's like really rough about it
for me is I don't like to get up like a farmer
like at 5 o'clock or 6 o'clock in the morning,
which we do, and that's the only thing that's very
difficult for me. So sometimes I don't know what
we film during the morning hours.
KAITLIN OLSON: We start at like 7:00.
DANNY DEVITO: They tell me like the afternoon,
"Well, we already did that scene." I say, "Was I
in it?" "Yeah, you were in it."
KAITLIN OLSON: Danny wakes up around 11:00, but
he's been working for hours.
DANNY DEVITO: Yeah, it's quite a schedule and a
lot of fun, and I'm also doing other things, like
you asked. You know, I have a website called
thebloodfactory.com, which is on the web that we
just came from Comic-Con. I do that, and I'm also
developing a couple of movie projects as we go
along, too. So thank you.
QUESTION: With Mary Elizabeth working on "Perfect
Couples," what kind of presence is the waitress
going to have this season? And does that mean
that Artemis will be throwing Sweet Dee's baby
ROB MCELHENNEY: Well, actually, the timing worked
out really well because they're going to be in
production on "Perfect Couples" when we are off
from production and vice versa. So I think this
particular season Mary Elizabeth is in --
KAITLIN OLSON: Two?
ROB MCELHENNEY: -- two episodes. Yeah, about two
episodes, which is generally the average.
GLENN HOWERTON: Yes.
KAITLIN OLSON: Artemis is in a couple, too, this
year, and, no, nobody throws Sweet Dee a baby
shower, and thank you for asking.
DANNY DEVITO: But I'm telling you, if Artemis
threw Sweet Dee baby shower, I would want to be
there. That girl is off the wall.
QUESTION: Your experience at Comic-Con, do the
fans talk about this show as well? What do you
hear down at the grassroots level?
DANNY DEVITO: It's amazing.
GLENN HOWERTON: Our show?
DANNY DEVITO: Amazing.
GLENN HOWERTON: Well, we did a panel -- we did a
screening and a panel, and I don't know -- I --
ROB MCELHENNEY: Seven thousand --
GLENN HOWERTON: Seven-thousand people showed up.
QUESTION: In costume?
ROB MCELHENNEY: Quite a few in costume.
KAITLIN OLSON: A lot of costumes.
GLENN HOWERTON: A lot of costumes, yeah.
KAITLIN OLSON: A lot of Chewbaccas.
ROB MCELHENNEY: I get a lot of people emailing me
pictures around Halloween of people they see dressed
as us --
KAITLIN OLSON: Yeah.
ROB MCELHENNEY: -- as our “Nightman” characters for
GLENN HOWERTON: We definitely -- yeah, well, somehow
I don't know how this happened, but on our show our
characters tend to wear a lot of different costumes.
I don't know what --
KAITLIN OLSON: Which we do again this year in the
GLENN HOWERTON: Which happens again this year, of
course. So we've actually spawned quite a few
Halloween costumes. Yeah, I'm the same way. I get a
lot of people sending me pictures of people that
they've seen or their own costumes or whatever. It's
QUESTION: That's very interesting. What type of
costumes? Certainly not --
GLENN HOWERTON: A lot of spandex.
DANNY DEVITO: Well, they have to do a lot of
KAITLIN OLSON: Yeah.
DANNY DEVITO: There's always -- like at Comic-Con
this year, just let me say, it was an explosion for
"Sunny," I thought, my personal experience. I've been
there a few years, and last year it was big. And this
year it was just, like, off the charts. You couldn't
go anywhere on the floor -- you know, when you're
looking at stuff -- I don't know if you've ever been
there, but it's -- this was the biggest Comic-Con
they've had in attendance, I think, ever. And it was
filled, I mean, from wall to wall with fans of all
those movies and all those characters, but I would say
99 percent of them were also "Sunny" fans. They were
just rabid about it, and we loved it. It was so
exciting for us because, you know, like they said,
like Rob said and Glenn, that we had a screening of an
episode, and there were, like, 7,000 people in the
room. And it's just -- you know, it's mayhem. And
that's what the live show was like, mayhem, which was
wonderful for us because it just gives you such, you
know, incredible feedback, which we're all looking
GLENN HOWERTON: I mean, it really is a motivating
force, though, for us to keep going because we still
love doing the show, but it is nice to know that
you're not doing it in a vacuum.
DANNY DEVITO: Right.
GLENN HOWERTON: Now that the show is -- I mean, it's
weird, and I don't know how often this happens
anymore, but it seems like not very often, that a show
continues to grow in its audience, you know, in -- I
mean every year our audience is bigger and bigger.
And it's harder and harder for me to just sit in an
airport. I mean, like, it's weird. That's where I've
noticed it the most. If I go to an airport, I can't
just go and just go sit at the gate anymore without it
being a whole thing. Now, I don't like that
particular aspect of it, but I like it insofar as it
shows me and tells me how much people are watching the
show, which is great.
KAITLIN OLSON: That's new for us because --
GLENN HOWERTON: It's new for us. Yeah.
KAITLIN OLSON: -- because, you know, it was kind of
an underground show for a few years. And we had some
really hardcore fans who love to let us know that
they've been there from the beginning. And I think
that's because it's kind of starting to explode right
now. And everybody at least has heard of it, and I
think most people have seen it now at some point. So
yeah, that's really new for us, what he's talking
GLENN HOWERTON: Yeah.
QUESTION: Well, the reason I asked about the reaction
DANNY DEVITO: Comic-Con.
QUESTION: -- the grassroots fans at Comic-Con is
that they have a very high passion level about what --
KAITLIN OLSON: Yeah.
QUESTION: -- that they like, but they are not shy
about telling you what they don't like.
KAITLIN OLSON: Yeah.
QUESTION: They have booed people --
DANNY DEVITO: Right.
QUESTION: -- off stage as well if they don't like
KAITLIN OLSON: They mean business.
QUESTION: Any negative feedback that you've taken to
heart and maybe tweaked a few things?
GLENN HOWERTON: No.
DANNY DEVITO: So far, thank God --
KAITLIN OLSON: I literally don't think I've gotten
DANNY DEVITO: So far, thank God, we haven't had any
KAITLIN OLSON: Not from Comic-Con.
DANNY DEVITO: Not from the fans.
GLENN HOWERTON: Not from Comic-Con fans, no. I
KAITLIN OLSON: Middle America? I don't know.
DANNY DEVITO: I don't even know if that's -- I mean,
you might get a reaction from, like, for instance,
when -- I was just traveling yesterday. I came back
from New York. And you may get -- if you're with a
family where three of the kids are just going crazy
over the fact that they're going to meet somebody from
"It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia," and you may have
a dad and a mom or somebody there wondering, they
might be a little bit cool about it, the mom and dad.
They probably don't know -- they've probably never
seen the show, and once the kids infiltrate them, they
will be total crazy fans for our show too.
KAITLIN OLSON: I've been surprised at how many mom
and dads have come up to us --
DANNY DEVITO: Yeah.
GLENN HOWERTON: Yeah.
KAITLIN OLSON: -- in the last few years and have
been, like --
DANNY DEVITO: They've come around.
KAITLIN OLSON: -- huge fans. I was like, "Oh, wow,
that's awesome." My parents love it, but my parents
are weird. But yeah, like --
GLENN HOWERTON: Yeah.
KAITLIN OLSON: -- it definitely is --
DANNY DEVITO: I know that --
KAITLIN OLSON: -- crossing generations now.
DANNY DEVITO: -- feeling firsthand because my kids
are now 27, 25, and 22. And I remember going through
this over the years where they would be so hooked on
something, right, and I would just pass the -- you
know, the TV room. I'd see them watching the show,
and I'd go, "Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah." I'd be cool.
Then I'd walk away. Then as I kept getting sucked in
more and more by their enthusiasm for the show, I
then, like, you know, just gave it up and really
listened to the show and got into the show and wound
up loving the show, you know, just going crazy for the
show. And that's what our kids give to us, I think,
all of our children do.
QUESTION: I was pleased to see the McPoyles return in
the Sweet Dee episode.
DANNY DEVITO: Yeah, yeah.
QUESTION: And over the years, you've built up this
collection of people even stranger than the gang at
the bar: Cricket and all of them. Among them, was
there anyone who you were perhaps -- did not intend to
bring back, but they were just sort of so good the
first time that you said, "All right. Well, we need
more of them"?
GLENN HOWERTON: Good question. That we did not
intend to bring back. Well, I mean --
QUESTION: Was there anyone who surprised you --
KAITLIN OLSON: Maybe the Soldier.
GLENN HOWERTON: The Soldier.
QUESTION: -- you by how funny they were?
ROB MCELHENNEY: Yeah, Ben the Soldier.
KAITLIN OLSON: Yeah, Ben the Soldier.
GLENN HOWERTON: We established that Sweet Dee was
dating somebody last year, I think in the
"D.E.N.N.I.S. System" episode.
DANNY DEVITO: Yes, yes.
KAITLIN OLSON: He likes turtles.
GLENN HOWERTON: Yeah, he likes turtles. An Iraq War
ROB MCELHENNEY: That was the wrestling --
GLENN HOWERTON: Well, we introduced them, I think, in
"The D.E.N.N.I.S. System," right?
KAITLIN OLSON: Mm-hmm.
GLENN HOWERTON: Anyway, yeah, and then he comes back
in the wrestling episode. And then -- and actually,
he's going to be in another episode this year. There
are actually a few characters that show up -- we've
got some great ancillary characters that show up in an
episode this year for very specific reasons. I guess
we can talk about why, but yeah, so every once in a
while that happens, yeah.
QUESTION: Do you have to be judicious about using
them? Is there ever a temptation like just -- "Let's
put the McPoyles in every episode"?
GLENN HOWERTON: Yeah. I mean, but -- I love those
guys. Those are some of the funniest characters that
I've ever seen. I mean, that sounds weird because I
write for the show, but it's mostly a testament to
their performances really. I mean, it's one thing to
write something. It's another thing to have somebody
come and just absolutely nail it. I would love to use
them more. But they're so strange that it's hard to
come up with stories to justify why they would -- why
they would be there. That being said, I mean, we'll
use them as much as we possibly can. I mean, they're
QUESTION: How does it feel to know that five years
ago, you were pushing the envelope contentwise,
languagewise on FX and now you guys are relatively
restrained compared to a lot of what's on FX,
especially "Louie" and a couple of the other shows?
ROB MCELHENNEY: Well, it was never our intention
necessarily to push the envelope. Our goal is always
to do what's not being done elsewhere. And something
that we're really proud of and something that I think
that the fans -- the true fans of the show really
understand that a lot of people don't know is that we are
not simply just going out and trying to push the
envelope for pushing the envelope's sake. We're
trying to introduce into comedy a part of the national
conversation that we hear and see people talking about
behind closed doors, but aren't doing in public. I've
never seen an episode of any show that deals with gay
marriage, and we decided that that was something that
we wanted to do. And that's what -- we're going to do
an episode about that this year. We felt like we
could have a very distinct and different take than any
other show on television. And sometimes we do dick
And I -- honestly, and I feel like there's a happy
medium in there, and I think that if you do just go
out and go for the low-brow or you are just pushing
the envelope for pushing the envelope's sake, that
ultimately people are going to get bored with it and
they're going to move on. I think if you are building
a foundation of a show that is a part of the national
conversation and then you also can bring in some base
humor, I think it cannot only appeal to a larger
audience, but also can have some sort of setting in
GLENN HOWERTON: Yeah, and has a certain social
relevance. That's not to say that all those other FX
shows are doing that. I mean, I happen to be a fan of
"Louie" also. And the reason I think -- I mean, I
think that show is really smart, and I think it's
really funny. And I think with our show and with that
show, if something happens to be shocking or, you
know, put -- you know, crossing a line, so to speak,
it's not ever good if it's just for the sake of
crossing the line.
KAITLIN OLSON: It's based in something else that's
GLENN HOWERTON: Right.
ROB MCELHENNEY: Also, if you remember, the pilot of
"The Shield," which was done way -- many years before
us, a cop kills another cop. I mean, that's pushing
the boundaries as far as -- and that's your main
character. And Vic Mackey's one of the greatest
characters in television. So --
GLENN HOWERTON: But it's like Rob said. We're just
trying to do something different that we haven't seen,
that we aren't seeing, something that we would want to
watch as viewers. And then oftentimes that happens to
be something that pushes the limit or crosses a line
or whatever it happens to be. But I mean, personally
I think that's just what makes something good. I
KAITLIN OLSON: You haven't seen it before, a lot of
GLENN HOWERTON: It needs to be surprising. It needs
to be shocking a little bit. Otherwise, it doesn't --
that's why I watch television, to see something I've
never seen, to watch something unfold that surprises
me and shocks me. And whether it makes me laugh or it
makes me cry, that's what is effective in telling a
story, I think. So we're always coming at it from the
standpoint of telling an interesting story that you
ROB MCELHENNEY: Which is also the way I felt about
"The Shield" when I first saw it too and in a lot of
different FX series, certainly "Nip/Tuck" and "Rescue
Me," is that, obviously, it was pushing the
boundaries, but it was about something. It was
something -- most importantly, like you said, it's
something I wasn't seeing anywhere else.
QUESTION: I have two questions, one about
syndication. Don't you think syndication really
helped raise your profile at the airport and other
places or for a more general audience than maybe
cable? Also, I wanted to ask about your characters
and if they've changed over the seasons? It seemed at
first they were kind of off-putting or something, but
now they're just kind of hilariously really stupid.
Do you think they've changed, or has my perception
ROB MCELHENNEY: I think it's your perception.
KAITLIN OLSON: I think people have gotten used to it.
ROB MCELHENNEY: Yeah. I think that's -- it's like
that first bitter taste of coffee that you -- when you
first have coffee, and then you start to develop a
taste for it or maybe an addiction. And I feel like
the characters are off-putting at first because it's
like nothing -- you've never seen a group of people,
maybe for good reason -- I don't know -- together in a
sitcom acting the way that these people do. And that was
something that was our goal, something that you had
never seen before, which I think can leave a bad taste
in your mouth at first. But then over time, you start
to see that these are not just obnoxious people, but
they are people who are pathetic.
And there's something --
GLENN HOWERTON: But I think they are somehow
representative of a certain type of mentality in our
society. I really do believe that. And I think
that's why it actually resonates with people. I think
everybody -- I think a lot of people have a side of
themselves that are these characters. I really do. I
know I do. I know I have a side of myself that's a
screaming baby who wants exactly what he wants, wants
it now, and isn't going to take no for an answer and
is going to do whatever it takes to get it, even if it
means I'm stepping on everybody's heads to get it.
There's a side of all of us, I think, that is
reminiscent of these characters. And I think
that's -- I do think that that is why it resonates.
ROB MCELHENNEY: And that's why we're proud of the
satirical look at American culture, which we think our
show is. And we believe that the core audience
QUESTION: What about the syndication? Do you think
ROB MCELHENNEY: Yes, absolutely. Not only has the
syndication expanded our audience; it's also broadened
it and made it a little bit younger. I think our mean
age was, at one point, somewhere in the mid to late
twenties. I think it's down in the early twenties
now, which is great. It's mostly -- college kids were
really the groundswell of the show originally. And
they were passing it around to their friends, the
DVDs, and they were telling each other about it. And
then those college kids graduated, and those people --
those kids who were assistants or junior-level
executives became executives, and they became agents,
and they became people working all over the country as
opposed to just kids. I think that that, coupled with
syndication, which has expanded our audience, I think,
is really what has done it.
JOHN SOLBERG: Last question.
QUESTION: I'll ask it. So you guys had this great
episode last season where you were trying to get to
the Grand Canyon, and you got as far as the Italian
GLENN HOWERTON: Yeah.
QUESTION: -- in Philadelphia. Are you guys ever
going to leave Philly? Are there any plans to get
those characters out of Philadelphia?
ROB MCELHENNEY: Yeah. We have an episode this year
with -- I don't know if there's any baseball fans in
the room, but Chase Utley and Ryan Howard of the
Phillies are guest-starring.
GLENN HOWERTON: And Tom Sizemore.
ROB MCELHENNEY: And Tom Sizemore. And --
-- we go on an adventure outside the city to the
wonderful state of New Jersey.
DANNY DEVITO: Oo-hoo.
KAITLIN OLSON: So yes, they go on a big trip.
GLENN HOWERTON: Yeah.
ROB MCELHENNEY: Very long, cross-country --
DANNY DEVITO: Yeah. It was kind of scary, but it was
really worth it.
JOHN SOLBERG: Thank you all so much. Again, the show
returns for its sixth season on Thursday,
September 16th at 10:00.